06-21-2011, 04:39 PM
Time for the obvious/popular answer.
Eye3
UA
Lemur
S3
Lotus
Hazel
Vulture2
F73H
73MV
Harpy1
RM
RA2 or R2 or Shade
R3
Amino/es/sla/L+/codon/R+/marishi
Tune it enough to get it underweight. I don't know what the 2v2 rules are regards to weight/hangars with UA so I left hangars out since the speed increases a bunch. If it's allowed just changeing out R3 for HP and putting handguns in the hangs does wonders.
Now it's pretty clear that you're going for a bulky heavy style with big weapons, but I'm posting this for the sake of communicating what best accomplishes the style you're going for in a competitive 2v2 setting. And yes I know you'll probably not use the bot as it's basically the most used heavy ST core frame on the planet aside from U4 hangar bots. I'd even prefer it faster but this is about as heavy as you can go while still being good.
Your AC is too slow. It's supposed to be, but does it have to be? The main things holding it back are AP legs, longhorn, and centaur. The reason to use centaur is to create a threat big enough to have your opponent focus on it more than you usually would with weaker missiles. The reason why you would want this is to herd them in a predictable way so you can set up big damage. Zooks are good for this but you will seldom get into this situation due to how heavy the AC is, so you'd have to coordinate with your partner beforehand to have them play a rush style build and look out for your missiles as a cue. Honestly though, you can accomplish this more reliably with regular old verts as they hit more. The same goes for harpy. The idea is that they'll either avoid harpy by boosting in a linear direction or get hit by them some to avoid your partner. Verts are a bit trickier to have work consistently for herding, but still do OK. The big deal with running harpy+verts is how fast you dump weight/drain with harpy. Rifles just work best on any UA AC imo, especially since we're trying to keep weight low while keeping ammo/accuracy high.
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I'll agree with TM that you should be able to manage drain on this. RMG+centaur sucks some en up but longhorn/UA more than makes up for it. If it really becomes a problem just going GULL/lotus is enough.
Assuming you keep the frame the same i'd do the change to suiten with no hang like TM said. Volute2 has very limited uses. Single wields with missiles are generally where you want Miroku or Monju. UA gives a high heat breakpoint so you can easily get away with vult2/hazel/lotus with a couple heat tunes on v2. Throwing on eye3 to cover for stability/def and using marishi/R+ like in the design above is a good idea with hazel too. Freeing up weight helps man.
Eye3
UA
Lemur
S3
Lotus
Hazel
Vulture2
F73H
73MV
Harpy1
RM
RA2 or R2 or Shade
R3
Amino/es/sla/L+/codon/R+/marishi
Tune it enough to get it underweight. I don't know what the 2v2 rules are regards to weight/hangars with UA so I left hangars out since the speed increases a bunch. If it's allowed just changeing out R3 for HP and putting handguns in the hangs does wonders.
Now it's pretty clear that you're going for a bulky heavy style with big weapons, but I'm posting this for the sake of communicating what best accomplishes the style you're going for in a competitive 2v2 setting. And yes I know you'll probably not use the bot as it's basically the most used heavy ST core frame on the planet aside from U4 hangar bots. I'd even prefer it faster but this is about as heavy as you can go while still being good.
Your AC is too slow. It's supposed to be, but does it have to be? The main things holding it back are AP legs, longhorn, and centaur. The reason to use centaur is to create a threat big enough to have your opponent focus on it more than you usually would with weaker missiles. The reason why you would want this is to herd them in a predictable way so you can set up big damage. Zooks are good for this but you will seldom get into this situation due to how heavy the AC is, so you'd have to coordinate with your partner beforehand to have them play a rush style build and look out for your missiles as a cue. Honestly though, you can accomplish this more reliably with regular old verts as they hit more. The same goes for harpy. The idea is that they'll either avoid harpy by boosting in a linear direction or get hit by them some to avoid your partner. Verts are a bit trickier to have work consistently for herding, but still do OK. The big deal with running harpy+verts is how fast you dump weight/drain with harpy. Rifles just work best on any UA AC imo, especially since we're trying to keep weight low while keeping ammo/accuracy high.
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I'll agree with TM that you should be able to manage drain on this. RMG+centaur sucks some en up but longhorn/UA more than makes up for it. If it really becomes a problem just going GULL/lotus is enough.
Assuming you keep the frame the same i'd do the change to suiten with no hang like TM said. Volute2 has very limited uses. Single wields with missiles are generally where you want Miroku or Monju. UA gives a high heat breakpoint so you can easily get away with vult2/hazel/lotus with a couple heat tunes on v2. Throwing on eye3 to cover for stability/def and using marishi/R+ like in the design above is a good idea with hazel too. Freeing up weight helps man.
Fuck protoss.
